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Grass Fed Meat

Postby Lawrence.McDonell » Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:46 pm

So through a bit of reading about ideal Omega-6 : Omega 3 ratios one of the big points that is constantly pushed is that our meats are now predominately grain fed and have much higher ratio of omega-6:omega-3 ... in some cases as high as 20:1 when we should be aiming for 3 or 4:1 at most. High Omega-6:Omega-3 ratio's leads to inflammation and most people know that is not a good thing.
A while back i saw it written that lamb is almost always grass fed meat and i put that in my head along with the assumption that most other meat was probably grain fed. Then while sitting at Black Stump i also notice that you pay MORE for a grain fed steak than you do for a grass fed one. Something didn't make sense... surely if most beef is grain fed then it would cost more for grass fed... it being the healthier and less common alternative. A bit of online googling about Australian Beef and Meat ( with a strict safesearch on :D ) leads me to believe that we in Australia are eating predominately grass fed beef and meat anyway. It seems that corn fed thing is largely an American issue. I couldn't find a whole heap of concrete evidence though mainly farmers from Australia chipping in on American forums saying how grass fed beef was awesome. Alos stuf like this from Wikipaedia:
The cow's diet affects the flavor of the resultant meat and milk. A 2003 Colorado State University study[36] found that 80% of consumers in the Denver-Colorado area preferred the taste of United States corn-fed beef to Australian grass-fed beef, and negligible difference in taste preference compared to Canadian barley-fed beef.


It is also apparent that Argentina and some other South American Countries have Grass Fed Beef. It is interesting to note that even in the states cows are on pastures for 7-9mths before being sold into feed lots where not only are they fed high energy corn but they are kept basically sedentary increasing the fat content of the meat significantly.

So is it true... could it be that we are lucky enough that for now most Australian Meat is grass fed? If anyone has any firsthand knowledge of the Australian Meat Industry and can confirm this please chip in. Anyone know anything else on this issue please add.
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Re: Grass Fed Meat

Postby Lawrence.McDonell » Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:45 pm

Also found this link
http://www.australian-beef.com/nutrition-beef which is kind of the opposite of this one
http://www.mountaincreekfarm.com.au/Grass_or_Grain_Finished_Beef.html
which is kind of different to what this one implies:
http://theland.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/consumers-swing-to-grassfed-beef/1484941.aspx?storypage=2

That second link is by a company selling grass fed beef though so i guess it is in their interests to say that most beef is grain finished... so confused :?
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Re: Grass Fed Meat

Postby Dan » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:55 pm

Lamb is generally grassfed due to the fact that sheep can get more out of a paddock of grass compared to cattle, its more cost effective. They can pratically chew to the dirt.
We dont generally have the massive feedlots that the Americans do, yet, however a good deal of cattle is certainly grain fed and nearly all of it is finished with grain to some degree. Next time you go to an sale yard or abattoir you will notice the absence of green paddocks.....

Think about the wild brahmans in outback properties, grazing and foraging away, until it comes time to muster. That process can take months, mustering, holding, transporting, selling, abatoir etc. They are not fed grass then.

For me grassfed is grassfed right up until the day it is slaughtered, and I too have been on the hunt for good quality grass fed beef myself. It seems, unfortunately, that most people offering grassfed beef think they can price their meat against woolworths and their $30 a kilo rump, where as I get my rump for $6 a kilo from Pendle Hill meat market, making grassfed beef a big investment.

I question the research methods though. There is no strict definition of grassfed to grain fed, can something be raised for 7 months on grass, 1 on grain and be called grass fed? Or even Grain fed?
Taste is not so much a barometer ofquality either, for me, one of the most important reasons of going grass (strict grass - ie visit the farm you buy it off) and not "claimed grassfed", is the omega 6 to omega3 ratio.

A friend of mine runs some cattle just outside of newcastle, he feeds grain to the calves in his backyard at newcastle, then drives them out to eat grass outside of Branxton. After about a yr, they are ready, and to do the business, he literally pulls one aside, coaxes it with Lucerne hay, and while it is munching away, Bang! - Now that is relaxed meat!

I am also looking at purchasing a whole cow from the below company, and will call him this week for pricing - he says he will do better for a full purchase and I can go and visit.
http://www.oaksorganics.com.au/

The 2 biggest things in someones diet, if they are strictly paleo, that can knock this ratio into undesirable levels, is meat and nuts. Most nuts, pretty much all nuts and seeds(Macadamias and Walnuts excepted - they are perfect!) - will have an unfavourable effect on someones omega 6 levels, and Omega6:omega3 ratios, with the worst offender being almonds, no detectable omega3.

So if you keep your nut intake to 100 grams a day or so, and your meat is 100% grassfed, you will find yourself sitting pretty. Problem is purchasing it, when like I said, 6 bucks for rump. Its so cheap I make my jerky out of it, and love it.

To conclude this long post, in my opinion, any butcher bought meat will have had some contact with grain even those claiming to have been grassfed.

Incidentally, high omega 6 levels will actually dislodge omega 3 in the body. Just bad news all round.

As for Blackstump claiming grain fed is better, I have also seen this at the Meat and Wine Co,and the only thing I can put it down to is more fat content, possibly more desirable, and most people dont know any better.
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Re: Grass Fed Meat

Postby Tom » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:01 pm

Tara you are buying a cow? Damnit man, you're awesome!
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Re: Grass Fed Meat

Postby Dan » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:31 pm

I used to buy half ones all the time, its so much better, havent in a little while.
Yep sure am, may go halves with someone I know who is after one, but if all goes well, and I can talk them down in price, well, its the only way!

The Argentines put whole cows on spits! Thats a dream of mine. Oh the meat!
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Re: Grass Fed Meat

Postby Lawrence.McDonell » Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:06 am

Yeh by definition grain fed beef must be fed grain for a minimum of 70 days before slaughter... as far as sourcing grass fed beef i am going to ask my local butcher otherwise this website seems good value... Might give it a go:
http://www.springhillbeefhamper.com.au/home-packs.php. It is based in NSW and cattle are from southern highlands.
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Re: Grass Fed Meat

Postby Dan » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:59 am

I asked the butchers at Pendle Hill meat market the other day about their meat. They reckon all MSA grade (meat standards Australia) meat is grain fed.

Big disappointment. Best is just to get acres I think.
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Re: Grass Fed Meat

Postby Dan » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:01 am

Just thought of something, when writing my last post, they feed grains to fatten the cattle up.

I will write this again, THEY FEED GRAINS TO FATTEN THE CATTLE UP.

Marbled meat, extra fatty, all grain fed.

Anyone still unconvinced on the food pyramids epic fail?
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Re: Grass Fed Meat

Postby Tom » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:35 pm

Dan wrote:Just thought of something, when writing my last post, they feed grains to fatten the cattle up.

I will write this again, THEY FEED GRAINS TO FATTEN THE CATTLE UP.

Marbled meat, extra fatty, all grain fed.

Anyone still unconvinced on the food pyramids epic fail?


Ahahaha I literally laughed reading that. Ah well, untill grass-fed beef is readily available and cheap i'll be sticking with Pendle Hill Meat Markets.
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Re: Grass Fed Meat

Postby Brendan » Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:00 am

Read this article on Australian Food Advisor:

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By Tim Elwin, Urban Food Market

I love grainfed beef. I have been brought up on it and believe that it delivers a rich, deep flavour not possible in grassfed beef. However being part of the meat industry I have explored the numerous methods of producing beef for our consumption and now have an enormous concern with how the mass meat industry produces this product (including Grainfed Wagyu Beef which is a big seller for my company).

My concerns have led me to evaluate the situation after researching this over the past two years. Why? Because feeding cattle grain is not sustainable for the animal, environment, or us.

The marketing spin doctors have done a fantastic job in making the majority of consumers and chefs desire grainfed beef, but at what cost, and why? Was feeding grain to the cattle part of their natural feeding environment, and if not, why give it to them in the first place?

It all starts with the question, “How do you produce more beef quicker and cheaper than current methods in order to supply fast food and supermarket chains with the low cost produce they insist on?”

Easy, give them a protein diet such as cereal grain (75%) and roughage (25%) by intensive feeding programs only possible in mass feedlots. This method had been widely used for centuries in mass production of beef (and other animals) in westernised countries around the world. I must point out that Australian feedlots have comparatively better conditions than their overseas counterparts, however they are still not the environment in which a cow should live – hard floors, often poor drainage and no shade.

Feeding cattle grain increases their pH level from 0 to the same acidity as humans; this is not normal. Also not normal is the unnatural growth rates that are achieved by feeding cattle a grain diet especially when growth promotants are added (ultimately synthetically produced hormones to speed up the process of weight gain and feed efficiency), which is up to 2kg per day.

They are fed this way for a minimum of 60 days, but on average 150 days and up to 600 days for strains of cattle such as Wagyu to achieve the high level of marbling needed to attract the high value overseas in such markets as Japan.

Unfortunately it gets worse due the rapid rate of growth, the cesspool-like conditions often seen in the feedlots, and the dramatic change in eating habits, the cattle are often injected with antibiotics to keep them alive long enough to go to slaughter. With the use of antibiotics, the beef industry has managed to keep feedlot mortality rate down to a low 0.7% (South Australia figure).

This figure would be dramatically higher if the antibiotics where not used. One of the main issues in giving antibiotics (and any other chemical) to animals that we eat is that you are eating those antibiotics/chemicals, which over time means that you become resilient to those antibiotics thus become more receptive to diseases such as E.coli which is found to be increased by producing beef in feedlots.

In addition to this, there is the issue of the levels of fatty acids we are putting into our bodies. The recommended ratio of omega-6 fatty acids to omega-3 fatty acids is 4:1, grassfed delivers around 3:1, yet grainfed beef has ratios that often exceed 20:1. Grassfed products are high in the good fats, but low in the bad fats.

So why don’t we all just simply stop buying the mass produced beef and start purchasing grassfed or organic/biodynamic grainfed beef? It pretty much comes down to three things – price, availability and distribution.

Beef has never been more widely available in supermarkets than it is today and at sometimes shockingly cheap prices, which only points to farmers being screwed good and proper so that it can be purchased and sold in mass volume.

Low prices on bad quality foods pushes prices of good quality foods out of reach of the general public. It also means that anything with the words Organic/Free Range/Biodynamic/Range Reared etc on the packaging means that the producer/retailer can charge a premium on the produce as it comes under the marketing term of “value-adding”, i.e. to enhance a produce.

Supermarkets have heard the initial cries from consumers and over the past couple of years have started stocking organic meats. These organic meats are definitely better than their cheaper counterparts, although they often come under the term “industrial organics via factory farms”, that is, organics products produced in such large quantities that it is similar to conventional production.

Questions have been raised about what it truly means to be organic meat. What image comes to mind when you think organic meat? If cattle are fed organic feed, and not injected with hormones or growth promotants, but are still confined to feedlots, does that still constitute being organic?

How do we fix this? Can we even go back to how it was where cattle were reared by numerous farmers in multiple pastures around the country without the use of feedlots and minimal, or preferably no, use of chemicals on the land and in the animal? The amount of grain required (and hence land, overcropping, fertilisers etc) to produce the grain to feed the cattle will come a point where it is not sustainable.

Grassfed and pasture fed cattle on the other hand only use the land they are raised on – And even if we can go back to the old ways, would the farmers be able to produce enough meat to supply the high demand of all the fast food chains, supermarkets, restaurants, cafes and BBQs of large populations.

The first step is to ask yourself to think about where your meat comes from and how it is produced. Do you know who produces it and how? Does the person who sells it to you (supermarket, butcher, providore) knows where and how is was produced without reading packaging?

And I will leave you with this last question: in order to ensure that meat production is more sustainable in the future, are you willing to reduce to amount of meat you eat and pay a little more for it?
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